Map of known hyrdrothermalvent locations.
Jul 25, 2014 8:01:29 GMT -5
Post by rah on Jul 25, 2014 8:01:29 GMT -5
Thought you might be interested in this Hydrothermal vents map Jer.
I came across it researching deep ocean temperatures on the web. You see it seems that despite the claims of the warmists that actually, according to the very very limited data available, the deep oceans have been generally cooling slightly for the last 20 years or so Deep Oceans Are Cooling Amidst A Sea Of Modeling Uncertainty.
So I got to wondering about the effect of underwater volcanism on ocean temps. They HAVE to have some effect of course but the question is how much? The laws of thermodynamics demand that solar heated surface waters will effect deep ocean water temperatures eventually due to conduction. Those same laws demand that water heated in the deep oceans by any means which has to include vulcanism and the thermal energy created by subduction at edges of the plates, will effect the temperatures of the surface waters.
The warmists have claimed that the reason why the air temperatures on earth are not heating they way the predicted is that energy their models claim to be building up due to the "green house" effect is being "sequestered" in the deep oceans. This is a very plausible conjecture because about 90% of the total energy in the earths climate system is in the oceans. But the ocean depths aren't warming but in fact cooling slightly.
Fact: Our understanding of basic physics makes it clear that energy does not just disappear. Energy can be converted from one form to another and be dissipated or diffused as when brakes on a vehicle convert kinetic energy to thermal energy and the brakes cool releasing the built up thermal energy to the surrounding air. But that energy just does not go away, it heats the surrounding air.
What it really comes down to is we don't know because of limited data but the data that is available indicates the oceans are actually cooling and no one knows why. But any rational person would have to assume that if you don't find the energy that computer models predict then the model must not be correct because the energy is simply not there!
I came across it researching deep ocean temperatures on the web. You see it seems that despite the claims of the warmists that actually, according to the very very limited data available, the deep oceans have been generally cooling slightly for the last 20 years or so Deep Oceans Are Cooling Amidst A Sea Of Modeling Uncertainty.
So I got to wondering about the effect of underwater volcanism on ocean temps. They HAVE to have some effect of course but the question is how much? The laws of thermodynamics demand that solar heated surface waters will effect deep ocean water temperatures eventually due to conduction. Those same laws demand that water heated in the deep oceans by any means which has to include vulcanism and the thermal energy created by subduction at edges of the plates, will effect the temperatures of the surface waters.
The warmists have claimed that the reason why the air temperatures on earth are not heating they way the predicted is that energy their models claim to be building up due to the "green house" effect is being "sequestered" in the deep oceans. This is a very plausible conjecture because about 90% of the total energy in the earths climate system is in the oceans. But the ocean depths aren't warming but in fact cooling slightly.
Fact: Our understanding of basic physics makes it clear that energy does not just disappear. Energy can be converted from one form to another and be dissipated or diffused as when brakes on a vehicle convert kinetic energy to thermal energy and the brakes cool releasing the built up thermal energy to the surrounding air. But that energy just does not go away, it heats the surrounding air.
What it really comes down to is we don't know because of limited data but the data that is available indicates the oceans are actually cooling and no one knows why. But any rational person would have to assume that if you don't find the energy that computer models predict then the model must not be correct because the energy is simply not there!
